The chat with Jerry Ratcliffe on the Reducing Crime podcast is now available at SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/user-780649270/32-jennifer-wood

You will also be able to find it on most other podcast sites, including:

Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1412813382

Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/reducing-crime

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4qeJBgSv2EPOmJWtaMKH1w